tricks

[Joe]

hey, i looked over all the pages and found no info about bike tricks. i'm a new rider and dont want to try anything without advice from someone that has tried it, being scared that i'll drop my bike out of ignorance. if anyone wants to brag about a trick, or explain how they do one, load it up!!:notworthy

[R-ggressive]

Hmm dont know to many ppl here that do those kind of "tricks" you are talking aobut

BTW: what do you ride?

[Joe]

boooooo... i ride a zr-7s kawa 01. just bought it, first bike, havin fun.

[Vtec44]

Have you seen a skinny dude pivot a bike on its side stand? That's a useful trick but can't impress high school girls with it though... :noteeth

[Vtec44]

Push left go left, push right go right. :noteeth

[Vtec44]

Slow, look, lean, rrrrrrrrrroll....

[tjtripp]

If you're set on getting into stunting, this isn't the best place. I used to be into stunting, but I grew out of it. I still like watching though. If you want to meet people who stunt, let me know and I'll take you to a spot where are the stunters practice on Sundays. But keep in mind that all stunters I know have had BAD crashes at some point.

[ReDDoG]

I'd like to check that out sometime. I have no interest in performing, but love to watch.

[thach]

what about a wheelie? i'd like to learn that shizzle. can you help me with that ThomasJ?

[tjtripp]

Wheelie? Well it's not hard to explain, but performing it is another thing. I never got good at the slow wheelies. when I was into stunting, the only thing I ever got descent at were high speed stand up wheelies. I was able to ride them for about a half mile before I lost my nerve. I don't condone it so I wont get into it. But I'd be happy to take some peeps to the stunt spot and watch. this sunday??

[D Duck]

heres a handy trick, instead of spending $30+ on a breaker bar go down to home depot and pick up a $5 piece of iron pipe.

[Vtec44]

Stunt day 2 yo! :D

[ChkUr6]

I know a couple of TRICKS... but I will withhold their names due to legal issues..

[The Sauce]

Stunt day 2 yo! :D
Please post a link to the video of part one. THANKS! :laughing3

[Joe]

yea!!! this sunday, we should meet up then... yea, i'm INTERESTED in stunting, but not killing myself. i wanted to know how a wheelie was preformed, and maybe try it a little, and go from there. are you guys around the pomona area? where do u want to meet up this sunday?

[tjtripp]

How long have you been riding Joe? If I'm not mistaken, you're fairly new.

[rc4d]

This is my idea of a trick. http://www.crash.net/picture_view_single~cid~6~pid~238508.htm

[Vtec44]

Not this Sunday. It's still cold out there! :o

[Night Train]

If you're set on getting into stunting, this isn't the best place. I used to be into stunting, but I grew out of it. I still like watching though. If you want to meet people who stunt, let me know and I'll take you to a spot where are the stunters practice on Sundays. But keep in mind that all stunters I know have had BAD crashes at some point.

What about you TJ, did you have a bad crash while stunting?

[tjtripp]

What about you TJ, did you have a bad crash while stunting?

No I've never had an accident. Actually the bike that I was comfortable on (CBR 929) got stolen. After that I got the RC51, which was not a good stunt bike at all. I attempted to do the same things on the RC, but it just wasn't the same. I slowly lost interest then stopped riding for 2 years.

Two of the guys I rode with both went down doing high speed wheelies. One was going 100 and the other was going about 80. So I learned from their mistakes and decided gravitate more towards performance riding.

[Night Train]

No I've never had an accident. Actually the bike that I was comfortable on (CBR 929) got stolen. After that I got the RC51, which was not a good stunt bike at all. I attempted to do the same things on the RC, but it just wasn't the same. I slowly lost interest then stopped riding for 2 years.

Two of the guys I rode with both went down doing high speed wheelies. One was going 100 and the other was going about 80. So I learned from their mistakes and decided gravitate more towards performance riding.

That's cool that you never went down. That must have seriously hurt going down at that speed. Luckily, you did not have to learn the hard way.

I was surprised to read that you were into stuntin. I have met you a few times and you did not strike me as the stuntin type.

What was wrong with stuntin on the RC51?

[tjtripp]

That's cool that you never went down. That must have seriously hurt going down at that speed. Luckily, you did not have to learn the hard way.

I was surprised to read that you were into stuntin. I have met you a few times and you did not strike me as the stuntin type.

What was wrong with stuntin on the RC51?

Well there were a few things that made the RC51 a bad stunt bike. For one it had a narrow powerband. But the biggest downfall was probably the weight and the fact that it was top (front) heavy. The balance point was waaayy up there (wheelies) and the few times that I was able to balance it out, it would loose stability and start to wobble on me.

I mean if I was good at stunting I could have still managed, but I wasn't that great at all. My friends would jump on my bike and wheelie/endo that thing all day, but they were/are really good at stunts.

[Night Train]

Well there were a few things that made the RC51 a bad stunt bike. For one it had a narrow powerband. But the biggest downfall was probably the weight and the fact that it was top (front) heavy. The balance point was waaayy up there (wheelies) and the few times that I was able to balance it out, it would loose stability and start to wobble on me.

I mean if I was good at stunting I could have still managed, but I wasn't that great at all. My friends would jump on my bike and wheelie/endo that thing all day, but they were/are really good at stunts.

Yeah, that makes sense. But, if you could wheelie for 1/2 mile on the 929, sounds like you were pretty good!!! I'd take a 1/2 a yard! You just needed to get used to the RC51:D

[tjtripp]

Yeah, that makes sense. But, if you could wheelie for 1/2 mile on the 929, sounds like you were pretty good!!! I'd take a 1/2 a yard! You just needed to get used to the RC51:D

The thing that held me back was that I never got good with clutching up a wheelie. I would just "bounce" it up. The RCs powerband was narrow so I had to find the sweet spot and hit it just right just to bring it up in second gear. And when I got it up I had limited time to find the balance point due to the narrow powerband. I just wasn't that great so I never really learned. But it was probably a good thing that I never got good because it only takes one bad fall...

[Joe]

hey rc4d, that is a pretty nice knee drag. to get better at that u pretty much have to go caynon riding>?

yea, tj, i am really new at riding. didn't say i wanted to suddenly just start stuntin, but learn a few things. like that bounce u were talkin about, is that like droppin the clutch? oh and yea... i hope ur friends that dropped are ok... sounds pretty bad. glad u ok too man...

[rc4d]

hey rc4d, that is a pretty nice knee drag. to get better at that u pretty much have to go caynon riding>?

yea, tj, i am really new at riding. didn't say i wanted to suddenly just start stuntin, but learn a few things. like that bounce u were talkin about, is that like droppin the clutch? oh and yea... i hope ur friends that dropped are ok... sounds pretty bad. glad u ok too man...

Its not the knee. Take a look at his left hand. :fawkdance

[Joe]

HAHAHAHAHAHA, oh my god... how did i not notice that. one fat trick man... i wanted to save it, but i can't. FUNNY AS HELL THO!!!:notworthybow down to that.

[tjtripp]

What I meant by "bouncing" up a wheelie is where you bring up a bike without using the clutch. Basically you're using a combination of the bikes power and suspension in order to bring it up. For example, on my 929 I'd get it into second gear and go about 65. Then I'd stand up and bounce on the bike to compress the front forks while going off then on the throttle really quick (almost like blipping it, but harder). There's actually lots of technique involved. One of my friends could bounce up his Gixxer 1000 in up to 4th gear with no clutch at all. Don't go trying this now...

Most stunters nowadays are into the slow stuff, like circle wheelies, etc.. The good thing is that the stunts are performed at a much slower speed (like down to a few miles an hour) and emphasize things like throttle control balance, etc. The only thing about the slow stuff is that you need to have a purpose built bike (gearing is way different).

Here's a video of some "slow stuff" (http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Bikes+%5e%5e+ATV/0/A9DA32EE-1675-48C8-97C0-77C788E7A4F3.htm)

Here's a video of the stuff I used to be into

Long Stand up Wheelies (http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Bikes+%5e%5e+ATV/2/A04B4CC7-E213-4F7D-AFC0-BFD707C8F36E.htm)

Again, don't try this at home :welcome

[tjtripp]

Just don't be like these idiots!! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3761659966541394438&q=motorcycle)

[R-ggressive]

Just don't be like these idiots!! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3761659966541394438&q=motorcycle)those were some insane stuntas there. those mad wheelies and stoppies they were busting were crazy

ok i want the last 4:18 of my life back
that was really bad.

[Night Train]

Tripp, I saw those videos (the first 2) and I don;t think I could ever be able to do that sheat. Looks like they have the balance of a cat.

I guess this stunting stuff takes some talent that um er, I don't have!!

[Gixxerfan]

Just don't be like these idiots!! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3761659966541394438&q=motorcycle)

Man, I like that helmet strapped to the side look. And man, if I'm gonna go down, i want to protect that rear fairing, so it's probably better off there, then on my head.... idiots....:welcome

[danahs]

my tricks start at $50 and are only avalible to females

[danahs]

btw is that video supposed to be a joke?

[RRjunkie]

those were some insane stuntas there. those mad wheelies and stoppies they were busting were crazy

ok i want the last 4:18 of my life back
that was really bad.
:lmfao what's a wheelie ?... :dunno

[RRjunkie]

So what happened? Did u guys go to that Sunday stuntfest thing or what? How was it? I wanna check it out.

[ReDDoG]

I didnt get a chance to. I would like to check it out though for sure.

[Killer-Bee]

i love doing stand up wheelies but that shit hurt last time i went down :(

[RRjunkie]

:welcome then keep ur butt on the seat!

[Killer-Bee]

the funny thing was that i had sat back down then it happened :laughing1

[RRjunkie]

I'm guessing tank slapper when u touched down. U highside? Tankslapping highsides = no fun

[XBradX]

All you have to do to wheelie is pull the clutch in while rolling at about 30-40mph then rev the motor until it hits the rev limiter then dis-engage the clutch and hold on. Instant 12 o' clock. Make sure you are only wearing sandals shorts and a tank top (and a helmet if its your first time). Oh....and once you get it down, try it with your girlfriend on the back. She'll think you are really cool!

[old wanderer]

All you have to do to wheelie is pull the clutch in while rolling at about 30-40mph then rev the motor until it hits the rev limiter then dis-engage the clutch and hold on. Instant 12 o' clock. Make sure you are only wearing sandals shorts and a tank top (and a helmet if its your first time). Oh....and once you get it down, try it with your girlfriend on the back. She'll think you are really cool!

You forgot to tell him about getting on the front brake real hard just after he comes down so the rear will come up as nice as you just got the front end to do...Then do a left/right weight shift so you get a wag the tail effect..:banana

[radioflyer]

Disclaimer: If you're new to riding, it would be best to first get accostomed to 'riding in general' then move on to some VERY simple stunting is that's your pleasure. Just be aware that stunting (like speeding) is both dangerous and illegal outside of a closed & private track/lot (at least thats the way it is up in WA). And given that motorcycles are a dangerous hobby without the added complication it would be in your best interest to know what you're doing with the basic operation of a motorcycle before jumping into stunts.

Keep in mind that all non-acrobatic stunts are, in essence, controlled accidents/mishaps.

Wheelies: With just about any of the post 80's sportbikes if you hit the throttle too hard off the line or on a downshift, the front end will start to come up on you. This is generally regarded as a bad thing for a number of reasons. To reproduce the effect all you have to do is load the rear and somehow generate vertical momentum in the front by:
1.) Hitting the throttle really hard in low gear (stable but requires throttle control...i.e. experience)
2.) Bumping the clutch: quickly pulling in the clutch and then releasing while simultaneously hitting the throttle bringing up the front wheel at just about any appreciable speed. The instantaneous load on the tranny makes this method a bit more unpredictable and tends to do a number on your bikes internals.
3.) Bouncing the throttle: get the revs up into the bikes powerband then quickly dump the throttle and snap it back on while pulling back on the bars. The recoil in the forks will assist on the way up making the transition a little smoother and more stable. However, I’ve seen more people overpower a wheelie using this method than any other because it (again) takes quite a bit of throttle control.
…in all of the above cases the rear brake should always be covered since letting off the throttle will not always be enough to bring you back down.

Stoppies/Endos: Whenever you need to stop really fast you load up the front wheel. Stop too fast and the full load of the entire bike moves onto the front wheel and up goes the rear. Again, this is generally regarded as a bad thing for a number of reasons. To reproduce the effect quickly but smoothly increase pressure on the front brake when coming to a stop…not as simple as it sounds but that’s it.

Burnouts: When building a centripetal load on the front tire, it is possible to over throttle the rear causing it to spin-out usually resulting in a low side. Some people thought the effect was cool so they reproduced it in a controlled way by holding onto the front brake under heavy throttling and a slowly releasing the clutch. This only kills your tires and clutch if done correctly.

Acrobatics: Be sure the have a Living Will and an Advance Directive prepared, then handstand away. If you need my full name for the Will just PM me.

Also be aware: when you stunt/speed/anything reckless you are not the only person you can hurt. This is why we have tracks and closed courses. You can destroy someone else’s life by being reckless in the wrong place at the wrong time. Don’t stunt until you are ready. Always wear proper gear. And never forget that when you stunt, you are trying to control what is normally considered an accident.

Ride safe and keep the rubber side down.

[RRjunkie]

Keep in mind that all non-acrobatic stunts are, in essence, controlled accidents/mishaps.
Didn't understand this at first, kept reading, and very true... interesting insight/ perspective. Never saw it that way. But stunting's still fun as hell. I know my limits, never cross it, and never endager any1 else (only stunt in deserted commercial areas). I've never dumped, never broke anything... and the key to that is baby steps.:2thumbsup

[Killer-Bee]

All you have to do to wheelie is pull the clutch in while rolling at about 30-40mph then rev the motor until it hits the rev limiter then dis-engage the clutch and hold on. Instant 12 o' clock. Make sure you are only wearing sandals shorts and a tank top (and a helmet if its your first time). Oh....and once you get it down, try it with your girlfriend on the back. She'll think you are really cool!


hhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaa:lmfao :lmfao :lmfao :lmfao

[XBradX]

"I know my limits, never cross it, and never endager any1 else (only stunt in deserted commercial areas). I've never dumped, never broke anything... and the key to that is baby steps.:2thumbsup[/quote]



Give it time :)


This thread is squiderific

[RRjunkie]

"I know my limits, never cross it, and never endager any1 else (only stunt in deserted commercial areas). I've never dumped, never broke anything... and the key to that is baby steps.:2thumbsup



Give it time :)


This thread is squiderific[/quote]
:eek3 yo, ur freak'n me out. Hey Joe, lets hook up in shorts and tank tops and practice no handed 12'oclock wheelie flips on PCH.

[D Duck]

when changing your own tire it helps to clamp or squeeze one side. This lets it ride in the groove of the wheel and gives you more slack to the other side so you can lever that bitch on there.

[iehotrodder88]

thats why i love this board....this isnt a place were stunters gather but you can bring up stunting and not get flamed:D Anyway I stunt:rolleyes I didnt start to mess around until i got comfortable with my bike. I commuted everyday and rode canyons on the weekends. Once i was ready, and with proper instruction and guidence from my friend i started pow pow power wheelies, then learned how to use the rear brake. Now I clutch 1st gear and can float 1st at balance point. i mess around with stoppies but I went over the front twice already:laughing1

Dude just take it slow. Ive had friends go down stunting and while performance riding and always remember if your going to do wheelies, keep your foot over that back brake and teach yourself to use it. It wont do ya anygood if ya got your foot covering the rear but when you put it up to high and feel like your goung to loop you totally tense up and forget about that brake....Ive done it

have fun but take it slow:welcome

[XBradX]

I would be pissed if I had to fix my bike because I was squiding around town.